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Thursday, June 26, 2014

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Neat and clean price action on an expiry day. Nifty opened below PDL .IR formed. Short below IRL as BPB of PDL. Exited when price came back above first pull back swing high. Nifty traded in a range till expiry action started. BOF of range high was a good signal to short. did not take it . Need to change this habit it seems. Expires are not that choppy lately.

35 comments:

  1. Today I missed BPB at IRL, but caught BOF of RH, got 36pts. Thanks to you.

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    1. Allwin

      Good. I was just watching
      Still scared after losing a lot trading expiry and announcements

      ST

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  2. Hi ST
    Was the TST range low an opportunity to go long with range high as target as IRL/range low was one range and second one was 7520-7540.

    Also why did u not take BOF short? Anything specific?

    Thanks
    TBP

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    1. Yes
      TST of range low is a signal to go long
      Usually I stay away from counter trend TST
      Staying away on expiry is an old habit and old habits die hard

      ST

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  3. Hi ST,

    A great Day. Put of rs 40 just doubled in few mins. I owe it to you for coining the concept of Fluids !!..

    Thanks,
    Deven Malhotra

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  4. Hi ST,

    Where will be the entry of last BOF fall, if it was taken?

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    1. Right entry is below the pull back bar. next bar after the BO green bar
      But it will be very difficult to execute there without hesitation. Next point is the swing low
      Here again space is a problem.But still I will attempt it as there was a pull back after price hitting MSP

      ST

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  5. ST Sir,

    Only one trade, stayed away from market in noon session. check here
    Very much happy to say, i had a gr8 start in DP trading… earned 829 points in 26 sessions :) {thanks to markets.. gave excellent opportunities recently)

    Thinking to go back with more lots (what i used to trade with SAR earlier), i feel confident now.
    Hope i could handle big quantity also!

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    1. Good results
      You could have shorted the break of IRL as price is breaking out of the range
      829 points, I think is with 2 lots.Dont scale up in a hurry. Let the procedural memory develop

      ST

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    2. HI,
      IS THIS AFTER BROKERAGES.

      THANKS

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    3. rose,
      great score. congratulations. just I remind you what ST sir advised you. pls, see....
      http://niftynirvana.blogspot.in/2014/06/03062014.html

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  6. Thanks sir.
    May be i will wait for another 1 month to scale up, procedural memory.. WoW :)

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  7. Hi Rose Mary,

    Congratulations..That is a good achievement for a beginner.
    What do you mean by SAR?

    Regards,
    Kiran.

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    1. SAR stands for Stop and Reverse.. its used basically for positional trading.. traders use EMA's as SAR.
      Ex: 10 day ema

      If NS closed above 10 day ema.. carry longs, else shorts.
      it works best in TRENDING markets.. lot of whipsaws comes in side ways market.. trader's real ability comes, how best he handle sideways market :)

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    2. Rose Mary

      I was very keenly following the SAR system by Assortz
      Unfortunately, he discontinued posting. Still I feel this is one of the best materials available on SAR method.

      http://assortz.blogspot.in/2012/01/sar-number-math-not-myth-traders-view.html

      Another thread I followed for months was by dpaterso at baby pips for months. That one ended without any success despite too much efforts by a lot of traders

      http://forums.babypips.com/free-forex-trading-systems/4976-parabolic-sar-thats-all.html

      Circular logic was one of the oldest site trading SAR. I had a trial subscription for a while. Site is still there but the forum has disappeared
      http://www.circularlogic.com/

      ST

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    3. Okey.. my understanding of market is very limited sir.. 2 years of JNSAR & 26 days of DP trading now.
      The kind of links you put here, shows how much of effort you spent.. during testing times in market.

      We all owe you a lot... for selfless sharing of your system.. which came after after lot of effort.

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    4. Rose mary, This is really awesome and inspiring that you could successfully trade DP method and came out with excellent profits in just 26 days... Do share your learning steps..

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    5. Vikram,

      I will just list out steps on how i started after visiting blog.

      1. Gone through e-book couple of times
      2. Read all important posts
      3. Did paper trades for a week
      4. Read e-book 2 more times, this time i found concepts were more clear... after correlating how price reacts at DP’s during live market
      5. Started actual trades with 2 lots
      6. At EOD, I compare my trades with ST sir... & note down learning’s
      7. I start day with check-list prepared
      8. Look how day trend is positioned 1st
      9. Check Initial Bias
      10. Once IR formed, look if any DP’s around... if yes, I consider them for trade.
      11. Decide the pattern to trade (in case of prolonged range... BPB,BOF works better)
      12. Check where FTA is positioned... at least 10 points away (Sometimes FTA may not be much relevant if, range BO is happening... today IRL BO is one example... we must apply our intuition, before taking decisions)

      13. Check if critical mass favours your trade
      14. Check Sufficient order flow, to drive till next DP... whenever I see FTA around 10 point away.. Mostly I vote to trade that.. If NOT moving in favour... I simply put SL 2 points away to cost price... Break Even.

      15. If my initial SL is more than 10 point, I prefer NOT to trade.. R:R should be 1:1 at least.
      16. Once trade started moving in my favour... I do start trailing my SL behind DP’s...
      It could be Static/Dynamic DP (or) Swing high/low (or) flip.

      17. Limiting maximum trades to 4, per day.
      18. Max risk of points per day 20-25
      19. If 2 trades fail in a row, avoid further trades... unless low R:R trade arises.
      20. Last but not least... start a blog & use it as trade journal.

      Hope it helps!

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    6. Rosemary, excellent performance within just 26 sessions.

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  8. ST sir,

    Today i missed the first short trade,was waiting for a pullback below IRL
    Took a short on BOF of RH and scratched
    Take a long at 14:42 candle high as BPB of range high,i thought it will run into the fluid but failed.How can we avoid this trade?
    Then shorted the BOF of range high which went well below the range low and BRN.

    dpintratrading.blogspot.in

    VKM

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    1. Be aware of the big picture. today is expiry
      Nifty was trading between 7500-7600. Morning sell off itself showed the big boys want an expiry below 7500
      Price fell to 7520. Now it is very difficult for the bulls to lift it above 7600. So they loosened their grip a little and allowed poor retailers to go long and made retail shorts to book profit. At the fag end a BOF. retail traders panicked and exited pushing price below 7500. These are all games big money play. Expect these kind of traps on expiry

      ST

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    2. Yes sir expiry drama.
      Thank you sir.

      VKM

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  9. Dear ST, I think my earlier comment might have gone into the spam folder. Please check. It was about the SAR and I think one must read Welles Wilder's original book published in the early 70's. I have the PDF book and if anybody wants it then I'll be happy to mail it. Thanks.

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    1. SS
      Happy to see your comment after a long time.
      I could not locate your earlier comment.Dont know what happened
      I have not read wilder's book. Please do send me a copy to
      niftynirvana at g mail

      Thanks a lot
      ST

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  10. Nifty being resisted at the median - 7565

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  11. Sir SS kindly mail me the pdf book ,omhrmanagement@gmail.com thnx

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    1. Morning session there was no channel
      Afternoon it channeled for a while

      ST

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  13. @SmartTrader The initial downmove was a kind of a freak or was it slow enough to take a trade there?

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    1. Market was very choppy and there was no clear signal

      ST

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  14. ST sir,
    Plz let me know which charts you use for 3 min time frame.I use GCI charts with 5 min time frame but its lacking 5 points nf.Thx in advance.

    Regards,
    SS Dhiman

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    1. I am using Icharts. It is web based interactive charts
      Around Rs 800/- per month

      ST

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