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Friday, April 25, 2014

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Traded continuous charts today. Nifty opened above PDH. This is due to premium factor. IR formed. BOF of IRL was inviting with two nice pin bars. But trade did not move. scratched.Went short on break of PDH. As I expected price was able to break RN. Then trailed till PDL. Nifty traded in a range below PDL for a while. Long PP trade did not work. Scratched.

25 comments:

  1. Hi ST

    My Trades :- http://tinypic.com/r/30xeus5/8
    Another -20 day :(. (Refered yesterdays F2 for PDH,PDL,PDC.What is the reason behind you using continuos chart this time ?)

    Didnot take the short since RN and NS BRN was below .

    Took long at the end hoping SL orders of all these shorts will be there .
    It also failed..

    Please go through my 3 trades and kindly let me know what went wrong and what I didnt do right ..


    thanks n rgds
    Kishore

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    1. ST,
      Please ignore the first down arrow (if you can see it) ..It was added by mistake

      rgds
      Kishore

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  2. SIR,
    DUE TO THE PREMIUM FACTOR PROBLEM SHALL WE COMPARE THE SAME EXPIRY (MAY NF) CHART FOR PDH,PDC AND PDL.(INSTED OF APRIL NF CHART),
    PL CLEAR MY DOUBTS.
    THANK YOU.
    SELVANRAJ

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    1. Selvanraj

      Frankly I do not know which is the right way. You can use any chart
      No need to mix and match.We are not buying or selling at DPs blindly. we act as per price action.
      May miss a trade or may take profits a little earlier. No other danger

      ST



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  3. Kishore

    Usually I keep the continuous charts. today forgot to change.
    First trade was very low probability. Bias was bearish Notice candles 1 and 6. You were trading into the origin of second WRB where there was massive selling.Usually such WRB will act as a range.Second one was late. After the two BOF pin bars of IRL , you shorted after half an hour. Here break of the rage low is the right entry. You have to ignore RN and take a chance on a BO after 3.5 hours of tight trading range.Nothing wrong with last one. It is all in the game. you exited it well


    ST

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  4. Hi ST,
    "Nifty opened above PDH. This is due to premium factor" can you explain the premium factor please ?

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    1. Xrtrader

      In current /continuous charts once the current month expires next month data is appended.
      Yesterday data was April contracts. today May data is added to that and shown as continuation
      Yesterday at the time of expiry, the premium was zero. Today when May data gets added premium is reflected and looks like a gap up. Hope it is clear.

      ST

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  5. ST,
    Would you have taken a long BO if price had moved in the opposite direction at the same time you took the short BO? Considering it is trading in to that same WRB origin ?
    rgds
    Kishore

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    1. Kishore.

      My BO trade was a minor trap pattern. Notice that I have drawn a line there.
      There was no upward momentum on the break of previous swing high.
      If price stayed above that flip line for a while, I will look to go long on a BO. Target will be IRH
      We can expect a lot of stops above this range

      ST

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  6. Dear ST

    Could you please through more light on your "scratched" trades? Honestly I have a big trouble to understand this. I want to know when you lose confident on this trade so that you scratch? and what point you lose or gain? and on what basis you do these kind of trades?

    Please explain this, this really could help more people than you imagine, I hope (Especially me)

    Tnx
    Sakthi

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    1. Sakthi

      IMHO, Most of the things we learned from books and trading forums will not work, especially in day trading.
      For example, take the last trade of the day. A range formed PDL as the high. I expected a lot of stops above PDL and entered on the breakout.Price could not move beyond the higher swing high. gave a pull back and attempted to go up again. This attempt also failed. I exited when it fell back to the range.Loss is 4 points including commissions.
      Many traders will keep a SL below range low and hope. Today it did not came down because most of the people were short and were covering at the fag end. Those people will get stopped out at a 20 point loss.
      Take the first trade. My risk was just 5 points including commissions and made 35 points on the trade. Most of the day traders are losing because they do not know how to manage risk.
      For me every trade begins as a scalp to the FTA. It it breaks FTA ,I will raise stops and trail. Otherwise will try to exit at a small profit/breakeven/small loss.Result of a trade can be a small loss, big loss, small profit and a big profit. You eliminate big loss. Small profits and losses will even out. Big profit will remain with you

      http://niftynirvana.blogspot.in/2013/01/scratch-and-win.html

      ST




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  7. HI ST
    whr exactly u entered ur BO trade , below PDH or above PDH ?

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    1. Sudharshan

      I entered on break of PDH. Once price comes back above PDH I will look for an exit
      I will keep my hard stop above the BO bar high.

      ST

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  8. Dear ST,

    Thank you very much for your clearcut explanation on scratch trades.

    I (we) really owe to you a lot,

    tnx,
    Sakthi

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  9. Dear ST,
    When price reversed a couple of times from PDH, was there any long entry? How to stay out of such longs?

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    1. Sujee.S

      Theoretically Yes.
      But trade need space to move. Here the logical target is the range high.It is less than 10 points. Not worth taking the risk. Further market is trading below open and bias is slightly bearish.Better to stay with the trend Pattern is just a TST and not a BOF. So we cannot expect order flow from trapped traders.
      Price action trading is not trading some patterns. We must be well aware of the big picture and take a decision as per available information

      ST


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  10. Dear ST,

    I'm a big fan of your posts and read them everyday without fail...I have always this confusion.... How to determine nifty numbers (like NSBRN / NSRN) on Nifty "Futures" charts.. Do we do manual calculations and mark them based on premium/discount.. As I'm also ichart member and on NF chart I guess we cannot overlap NS chart ?

    Pl. excuse me if u have already covered it elsewhere

    Regards,
    Sumesh

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    1. Sumesh

      NS levels are approximations. It will depend on premium/discount
      I monitor these levels on my trading terminal. NF will stall or pause near these levels and I consider these levels.
      These levels are for trade management only . I rarely initiate trades there.

      ST

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  11. Hi ST,
    What type of filter do you use for entry/exit in Nifty? Filter as in entry value+1 rupee or something like that? Please advise.

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  12. Sujee

    Usually within 1 point
    For example BO of a swing high at 6704
    I will enter a SL Limit 6704.50 trigger and limit 6705

    ST

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  13. Hi ST,
    Will yu please explain the thought process for going short on the BO trade below PDH? The initial break of PDH ended up as tails in the morning, after that at what point would the SLs have moved to below PDH where we took short? Thanks for your help.

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    1. After the BOF of PDH price went up and pulled back forming a swing low point at PDH
      Naturally people will cut their exposure raising stops. Price tested this low again and went up. New longs kept SL below this low. Then a TRAP pattern trapped some longs. We can also expect their stop below PDH

      ST

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